The Key Lessons from Grant Cardone and Jordan Belfort’s Debate
The following chapter is from Limit Breaker: 101 Short Stories, Essays, and Insights to Improve Communication Skills
There is this podcast with Grant Cardone & Jordan Belfort that is available on YouTube.
2 legends in the sales game.
This collaboration should be a peaceful discussion with tons of takeaways, right?
Wrong.
This interaction turned into a heated debate.
Two titans locking horns.
Grant Cardone has built his career being the King of Sales.
But on this podcast?
Something strange had happened.
He was talking in circles.
Jordan (who you know as the character from Wolf on Wall Street) would ask him plenty of straightforward questions, but Grant would start dancing around the answer.
It was stunning to watch.
This was an awful look for Grant considering that he had insulted Jordan in the past by calling him a rip-off.
In this episode, it seemed as like Jordan was clearly more skilled in sales, not even close.
Is he though?
That’s up for debate.
But if you read the comment section of the interview, the perception is a LANDSLIDE win in favor of Jordan.
So what happened to Uncle G?
Grant made a TON of communication errors in this podcast. I’ve watched him for many years & have never seen his game off by that big of a margin.
Let’s go through a few social errors.
- He wouldn’t shut the fuck up
One of the most annoying habits of Grant Cardone & Gary Vee is that they interrupt a lot.
It’s like they are allergic to letting the other person finish a point before interjecting.
Grant did this MULTIPLE times.
I think I counted Jordan finishing less than 10 thoughts in the entire interview.
This made Grant come off as very rude.
On the other hand, Jordan was more tamed & let Grant talk.
- A lot of insults flying
Grant has this cunning way of insulting someone with a smile on his face.
So, he comes off as friendly while dissing his target.
He said Jordan’s friends were druggies, implied he was a bad interviewer, and said Jordan was too focused on ‘tricks.’
Anytime Grant was asked a reasonable question, he got defensive.
His body language showed how uncomfortable he was.
He was trying to bully Jordan, but it was not remotely working.
Jordan maintained composure & would laugh off the attacks without taking the bait.
That gave him more social points.
- Not being clear
Grant was saying a lot of sentences that didn’t make any sense in the interview.
Anytime Jordan would ask him for practical strategies, he would give some cryptic responses.
One weird line was: ‘
When someone is not interested, it means they are interested.’
I guess it makes sense if you watch Grant’s content.
But this was Jordan’s podcast.
Therefore, it’s important to communicate in a way where the new audience is able to keep up.
The lack of direct responses made him look like a typical ‘internet guru’ who lacks depth.
But that’s sad because Grant isn’t like that.
Grant made a follow up video after the interview saying that he wasn’t detailed about the sales questions because his philosophy had changed.
He now believes you should focus more on marketing and building your brand which allows the sales process to be smoother.
Great viewpoint. But you need to be clear fam!!
- Very Egotistical
Grant is a 10x thinker.
So, he doesn’t think like most people out there.
I get it.
But he was coming off as very egotistical.
He kept bringing up his successes as a reason to not explain himself.
Imagine if you wanted some practical tips from me in terms of communication skills & I kept saying, ‘I’m a Toastmaster champ.’
You’ll think, ‘cool, now can you answer my question?’
That’s how it felt watching this interview.
Overall, this was a poor look for Uncle G.
But this just goes to show, even the best of us have bad days.
This is by no means an attack on Grant Cardone’s character.
He is a stellar guy & his work has tremendously benefited my life.
This breakdown is simply an objective evaluation of what I saw.
Hopefully, you can watch the interview & read this breakdown to understand how NOT to carry yourself in a social interaction.
By knowing what not to do, it’s easier to find out what to do.
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